Mary McCartney/MPL Communications Ltd. Paul McCartney Would you have any interest in speaking to Paul McCartney about the Grammy Award he won on Sunday, a publicist asked over e-mail the other day. O.K., O.K., twist our arms, why donât you
Mr. McCartney won the Grammy for traditional pop album for âKisses on the Bottom,â a collection of his covers of standards like âItâs Only a Paper Moonâ and âAc-Cent-Tchu-Ate the Positive,â as well as new songs like âMy Valentine,â which he wrote for his wife, Nancy Shevell. It is one of at least a few distinctions Mr. McCartney has received in a career hat includes numerous solo offerings, several albums with Wings and, before that, his records made with a pop quartet called the Beatles.
Mr. McCartney spoke from London about his Grammy victory and why, by design, he wasnât at this yearâs ceremony. The conversation (excerpts below) began just before 7 a.m. Friday morning, when an unlisted phone number appeared on this reporterâs cell phone and a voice responded, âHello, David.â
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Is this who I think it is
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Yeah, sorry, this is Paul. Yeah, Paul McCartney.
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[after ecstatic laughter] Good morning, how are you
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Youâre in a jolly mood this morning. Iâm very well, thank you. How can I help you
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So youâve just won another Grammy Award. Donât you ever get tired of these things
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Nope. You donât get tired. Itâs very nice. And the Gr! ammys have become more and more important, media-wise. Itâs a bigger, better show. When you look at all the people in the musical field who are up for them, itâs gratifying to think that youâve picked one up.
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Itâs been reported that this is your first Grammy for an album of new recordings since âLet It Be.â [Mr. McCartney has also since won Grammys for individual songs, and the âBand on the Runâ album won a Grammy for its engineer, Geoff Emerick.] Does that sound right to you
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You know what I donât keep count. Iâm the worst on facts about me or facts about the Beatles. Itâs like, âItâs 50 years to the day-â And I go, âOh is itâ What am I supposed to do Keep a little diary and watch every little event So, no, Iâm always pleasantly surprised at these facts or these fictions. I canât help you on that. Iâm sure thereâs a million experts who could verify that. Itâs nice, because I donât have to keep track. Thereâs a lot of other people who keep track for me. Itâs a luxury.
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I imagine it must be gratifying to be recognized for this album in particular, which was such a departure for you.
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It is a completely different kind of album. Iâm very pleased, also, for the producer, Tommy LiPuma, and Al Schmitt, the engineer, theyâre such cool guys, very old school. And we had such a ball with Diana Krall. There was a moment in the studio where we were struggling with an intro, I think - although I must say, we didnât struggle too much on this album - but it wasnât like it was all charted. We just had the chords and the wor! ds, and w! e did pretty much improvisations. And there was a moment where we were struggling with an intro - should it be this or should we open like this And Diana was looking a little bit worried. And I said, âDiana, look. Iâm from Britain and Iâm in L.A., the sun is shining, Iâm in Capitolâs famous Studio A where Nat King Cole recorded. Diana, Iâm on holiday.â
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The victory is its own reward, of course, but you werenât at the Grammys ceremony this year. Why not
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We started to get a theory that when you donât go, thatâs when you win. But Nancy likes the event, and I do too, because she does. In some ways, itâs better than the Oscars - the Oscars are great and super-important, but the Grammys is like a really cool concert and you get some very good performances. But this is what happens: We went a couple of times and sort of sat there, and graciously accepted defeat. With that moment you look for at the Oscars or the Grammys, whe the cameras go to the people who didnât win, and theyâre smiling wonderfully and applauding. âAnd the winner is - John Mayer!â And you go: [through clenched teeth] âOh, wonderful. How wonderful. What a good singer.â Secretly youâre thinking, âHeâs not as good as me though.â Itâs a very human moment.
This year I was actually presenting at the Baftas, theyâd asked me to present a film music award that night. And then coming home from that, I got a text saying âYouâve won a Grammy.â So the car was alight with triumph. Hence the theory, you mustnât go if you want to win. But having said that, we might go next year.
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Do you have one place where you keep all your awards and trophies
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No, I donât. Iâm particularly lax on that. I donât know where they all are. Iâm just not organized. I s! aid to so! meone the other day, âWould you believe the Beatles were up for an Oscar, for âLet It Be,â and we didnât even know we were up for itâ
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Is that even possible
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Well, exactly. In those days, it was. Because it was less of a global ceremony. And the Beatles were very much in a - âLet It Beâ was the time that we were breaking up, so the news had not reached us. If you take that as indication, how unconcerned - how unplugged - we just werenât plugged into that. Nowadays itâs very hard to avoid it. I donât think any of us ever collected all of our gold discs, to put them up on walls. So I donât have a trophy room. Some of them go up in my office, which I think is an appropriate place to intimidate businesspeople. [laughs] Which is my aim in life.
Iâm very honored to get them. I donât organize them and catalog them. The excuse is always - which is the truth - Iâm too busy doing it. Iâm talking to you now before Igo into the recording studio to record new songs of mine. I love that - I love that I still am enthusiastic, Iâve still got the energy and the desire to keep doing it. So the analysis has to take a back seat.
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Whatâs the album youâre working on now
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Itâs a new studio record, my new songs. Iâm always writing songs and Iâve got a bunch that I want to record. Iâve been working with a variety of producers, and today Iâm actually working George Martinâs son, Giles. Iâm actually just going down the road to the studio. Iâm just going to pull over, have a little walk down the road, pull into the studio and start thrashing about on my guitar.
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Those fellows that you worked with at the 12-12-12 benefit concert, will they show up on your new album
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âCut Me Some Slack,â which I did with the Nirvana boys, will be on Dave Grohlâs album. Thatâs his project. He just rang me up, said: âDo you want to come over for a jam Iâm working on this project about the old Sound City days.â I was in L.A., so I went over with my wife and two of my daughters and they just hung, the gals, while me and Dave went over to the studio, feeling like two little teenagers escaping. Dave got on the drums, I got on guitar, Krist Novoselic got on bass, Pat Smear got on guitar. I just shouted some words - [demonstrates] âMamaaaaaaaa!â - got into that mode. What was so lovely about it was that it really was just, âHey, do you want to have a jamâ It was totally organic. It was like an improv afternoon. Really if you think about it, it should be something that a major label would dream up. [executiveâs voice] âI want you boys to get together, and weâre going to put a lot of money behind this.â But it wasnât, it was just our idea and we did it in one aternoon.
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Well, youâve got my number now. Feel free to give me a ring if youâd ever like to jam in New York.
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What do you play
Q.
I play the plastic guitar in Rock Band.
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Oh, cool. I bet youâre better at it than I am. My grandkids always beat me at Rock Band. And I say, Listen, you may beat me at Rock Band, but I made the original records, so shut up.